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BournemouthHammer 3:56 Thu Nov 30
Players In v Players Out

Sorry if this has been done already but who should we sell or get in during January. It is notoriously a difficult window to buy players. Looks like our board will have to dig deeper into their pockets than ever before as its the only way they will attract players to the club! There will be a few more high salaries on the wage structure! Assuming they can be bothered.

Alex V 4:04 Thu Nov 30
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And crucially, what room is there in the wage bill? New contracts were handed out last Summer, and the 4 main signings were on reported very high wages. I think it's very likely that we have to shift players just to make room in the wage bill - easier said than done when everyone is in poor form and presumably at the bottom end of their value.

Sniper 4:08 Thu Nov 30
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True Alex but then Sullivan still claims he wa trying to get carvalho so there must at least be enough room for the equivalent of his salary

Lee Trundle 4:08 Thu Nov 30
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There isn't one player I'd look to keep, that's if we get any offers for them.

Alex V 4:15 Thu Nov 30
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Sniper 4:08 Thu Nov 30

Carvalho's wages may well have been tied into Sakho leaving which we pulled out of late. I think that might be the reason Sullivan couldn't commit to the signing on deadline day.

Reading between the lines I would guess there's wage capacity for one more player at a mid-range wage, but not at £100k+.

Sniper 4:19 Thu Nov 30
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True v

I also wouldn't trust a word Sullivan says anyway!

I wonder how Everton have got round ffp in terms of wages though? Was lukaku on the same as Rooney, klaasen, sigurdsson, Pickford and Keane combined?!

Your mum 4:24 Thu Nov 30
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I can see a massive downsize happening, build a Championshit winning team, built around Snodgrass.

Jaan Kenbrovin 4:30 Thu Nov 30
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I dread to think of the 'PL experience' we will be desperately paying over the odds for in January.

Bernie 4:43 Thu Nov 30
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Pay up both Carroll and Sakho's contract and release on a free.

Alex V 4:46 Thu Nov 30
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Jaan Kenbrovin 4:30 Thu Nov 30

Alex V 4:56 Thu Nov 30
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Trying to think realistically who might leave the club.

- Sakho is a given. I think we just take what we can get.
- Ogbonna I wonder if you could sell, but you might end up loaning back to Italy just to get him off the wage bill.
- Obiang in a similar boat to Ogbonna. But what's he really worth in the market? Not a lot right now. Again I think a loan would be more likely.
- Lanzini there will be a threat of a bigger club trying to grab him. If I was him would I want to stay?

I think those are the ones you can allow (or in Lanzini's case be resigned) to leave without leaving us so short we can't hope to recover. There are just a lot of players we are kind of stuck with and just have to hope they improve.

Regardless I think the most likely outcome is that Sullivan refuses to sell anyone. He's very much a proponent of 'stick don't twist' in the market.

The_Phantom 5:04 Thu Nov 30
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This is one of our problems now in that January is much harder to sign decent players unless you pay vastly inflated wages.
This is what happened last January I believe. Payet left (for a pittance I might add) and the replacement was Snodgrass on big wages and Ogbonna needed an op and we got Fonte on big wages.
This January it seems obvious we need new blood but which decent players would want to come to us for a relegation fight unless we offered big wages.
This in turn, of course, makes it harder to shift them on again if they're shit because of their high wages.

, 5:08 Thu Nov 30
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A pittance has just been redefined on here.

Alex V 5:14 Thu Nov 30
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I know some on here hate the idea, but imo the loan market is the best answer in January.

Biggie Biggs 5:14 Thu Nov 30
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They can all fuck off as far as i am concerned

Sven Roeder 5:24 Thu Nov 30
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If you are looking at loan players there may be some who aren’t in their first teams and want to PRESS their World Cup claims

Jack Wilshere maybe?
Plus I’m not sure Lionel Messi played in Barca’s Cup game last night

, 5:36 Thu Nov 30
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It seems blatantly obvious to me that the owners will only buy a couple of players in the upcoming window if Moyes looks like their coming in will sway the odds to survival. If we have lost touch by the time the transfer window opens I cannot see the owners saddling the club with a couple of expensive purchases that will draining our revenue budget in the Championship.

So it looks like several loan players coming in to me.

Helmut Shown 5:56 Thu Nov 30
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As long as they do no business with the Spuds

dealcanvey 6:22 Thu Nov 30
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The thing is that Wilshere is now making his way back into the Arsenal team. Should have made our move for him in the summer.

Lee Trundle 6:24 Thu Nov 30
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Plenty on here laughed at the suggestion of bringing in Wilshere a couple of months ago.

, 6:30 Thu Nov 30
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If Wilshere had joined us pre season he would be as undercooked as the rest of our squad still are. So no there would by now be posters on here calling his loan to us a waste of time and money.

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